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Joseph Michel de Tavanne

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Searching for Joseph Michel de Tavanne, also known as Charpantier. Lived in France and/or Saint-Domingue in the 1780s and 1790s. Immigrated to Louisiana in 1795.
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Hello !

I've just finished reading the two parts of : https://countryroadsmagazine.com/art-and-culture/people-places/strange-true-stories-of-my-louisiana-ancestors/

I think you must focus on the name "GUERNE DE TAVANNE" : it was found in parish registers and on gravestones. The whole story of Alix DE MORAINVILLE may sound romantic but i'm afraid it's pure fiction (IMHO).

Let's go back to "GUERNE DE TAVANNE" : searching Geneanet, you can find this name in one interesting document

https://www.geneanet.org/registres/view/43604/310?individu_filter=17662914

This is a inter-spousal donation (24/04/1782) between Abraham GUERNE DE TAVANNES and RILLIEAU Marie Jeanne : Abraham is called "suisse du Roi" (= swiss guard of the King)

In this book (https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k6493789r/f18.item.r=GUERNE%20TAVANNES.zoom), you can also find this name and, once again, Antoine GUERNE DE TAVANNES is called "suisse du Roi").

These are two concrete proofs that this name exists : I hope it will help you
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Christian, I greatly appreciate your feedback about my search for Joseph Michel de Tavanne and his wife Marie Adelaide Gurene de Tavanne. I too believe the Morainville name was used to cover their identity. I will follow up on your suggestions. I would love to know how you came to find my published articles! I only sought to publish them in an attempt to get the word out so people like you might be able to help me solve this mystery. Many thanks for your help. I hope we can stay in contact.
Best Regards, Nina Planchard Flournoy ([email protected])
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Hello

I don’t understand why you call him « Joseph Michel de Tavanne « 

The real documents you have (Parish registers and gravestones) only mention Joseph CHARPENTIER and Marie Adelaide GUERNE DE TAVANNE.

Contrary to the American or English habit, an official French document never changes the maiden name to that of her husband.

So, if a document mentions Marie Adelaide GUERNE DE TAVANNE, it does not mean that Marie Adelaide GUERNE is married to a man called DE TAVANNE
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Hello again !

I continued my search and made two discoveries

1) https://archive.org/stream/AttakapasGazette/1983_Vol18_djvu.txt

--> a kind of catalog of the ATTAKAPAS HISTORICAL ASSOCIATION. It mentions :

the succession of Marie Adelaide Guerne de Travane, wife of Joseph
Charpantier, widow in first marriage of De Loignie. See SM 1 28;


I think this is a reliable publication... it undermines the theory of a first marriage with a DE MORANVILLE. The name De Loignie must be DE LOGNY or DELOIGNY

2) About the name "GUERNE DE TAVANNE" : i found two references to swiss guards (I gave them already). The first references of this name in the old french records are GUERNE dit TAVANNE (wich means GUERNE alias TAVANNE). And TAVANNE is a town in Switzerland where you can find a lot of people named GUERNE (have a look at this Geneanet search results (https://gw.geneanet.org/wildene?n=guerne&oc=&p=jacob or https://gw.geneanet.org/andreamcardozo?n=guerne&oc=&p=susanne)
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I have been following up on your helpful suggestions, but have had no luck finding the name De Loignie or DE LOGNY or DELOIGNY, associated with the name "GUERNE DE TAVANNE". I checked to find the courthouse records in Louisiana for the succession of Marie Adelaide GUERNE DE TAVANNE, but the clerk told me the records were missing.

Still searching. Thanks again for your help.
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