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Author Topic: Senet, Chenet, Senette Family of Louisiana, Where in France is their Origin?  (Read 984 times)
janarooke

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« on: 04 April 2007, 06:57:15 »

We have been trying to find the city of origin for the Senet, Chenet, Senette family that settled in Louisiana in the early 1700s. We have wives of our Senet ancestors as: Olive Berger, Marie Josephine Salmon/ Marie Salmin Amanne and Marie Josephe Dauphin.
We have come across a place or home by the name of "Ville de Alresta" in France in some colonial documentation. We really do not know where in France this family could be from.  As you can see by the posting below, we have lots of possible places of origin. I have posted many queries on other websites about this family with very little response.
My husband is a descendant of Marius Senette and Mary Ellen Whitcomb. I have posted the family tree on GeneaNet.
Any help would be appreciated! Thank you very much!
Jana Rooke

Descendants of Jean Louis Senet
               
1  Jean Louis SENET   b: in Bordeaux, France? d: 27 Sep 1729 in Louisiana   
..+Olive BERGER   b: Abt. 1687 in France?   m: Abt. 1707 in Bordeaux (Gironde:330063), France(?)
....2  Jean Baptiste Chenet Senet SENETTE   b: Abt. 1713 in (Ville de Alresta), Bordeaux, France?   d: 1758 in (Ville de Alresta), Bordeaux, France or St. James Parish, Louisiana   
........+Marie Josephine Salmon Marie Salmin Amann AMANNE b: Abt. 1715 in Possibly Chaffois, Rhone-Alpes, Swiss Frontier, France   d: Bef. Feb 1756m: 14 Oct 1735 in Ville de Alresta), Bordeaux, France?
...........3  Jean Baptiste Alexandre Senet SENETTE II b: 1737 in New Orleans, Louisiana   d: 27 Nov 1779 in Louisiana   
...............+Marie Josephe DAUPHIN   b: Abt. 1736 in New Orleans, Louisiana   d: Abt. 17 Nov 1796 in New Orleans, Louisiana   m: Feb 1756
.................4  Marie Nathalie Chenet SENETTE         
.....................   +Gervais GAIENNIE   b: 01 Jun 1797 m: Abt. 1830
.................4  Victoire Rosa SENETTE b: 14 Mar 1762 in New Orleans, Louisiana   d: Abt. 1812 in New Orleans, Louisiana   
.....................   +Jean Louis Joseph Drouet DRUECET b: 14 Nov 1761 in New Orleans, Louisiana   d: Abt. 1808 in New Orleans, Louisiana   m: 30 Jul 1787 in St. Louis Church, New Orleans, LA
.................4  Jean Baptiste SENETTE III   b: 26 Dec 1763      
.................4  Victoria SENETTE b: 02 Feb 1766 in Louisiana   d: 17 Dec 1803 in New Orleans, Louisiana   
.....................   +Jean Louis DROUET   b: 14 Nov 1761 in New Orleans, Louisiana      m: 14 Jul 1783 in New Orleans, Louisiana
.................4  Honore Alphonse SENETTE   b: 11 Feb 1768 in New Orleans, Louisiana   d: Abt. 01 Apr 1800 in Louisiana   
.....................   +Claire Barbier Barbay BARBE b: 23 Feb 1775 in New Orleans, Louisiana   m: 29 Jan 1798 in Cathedrale St. Louis Roi de France
.................4  Marie Manon Chenet SENETTE   b: Abt. 1770      
.....................   +Etienne Pierre REINE   b: Abt. 1770 m: Abt. 1790
.................4  Celeste SENETTE b: Abt. 1772      
.....................   +Francois POCHE b: Abt. 1771      
.................4  Adelaide SENETTE b: Bef. 15 Aug 1772      
.................4  Eugene SENETTE b: Abt. 1773 in New Orleans, Louisiana   d: 17 Jun 1817   
.....................   +Charlotte Barbet Barbay BARBE   b: 09 Feb 1779 in New Orleans, Louisiana   m: 02 Jul 1798 in St. Louis Church, New Orleans, Louisiana
.................4  Julia SENETTE b: 09 Nov 1774      
.................4  Ursule Chenet SENETTE b: Abt. 1778      
.................4  Eugenie Chenet SENETTE b: Abt. 1780      
...........3  Pierre Chenet SENETTE   b: Abt. 1739 in New Orleans, Louisiana
...........3  Honore Chenet SENETTE   b: Abt. 1741 in New Orleans, Louisiana   d: Apr 1800 in New Orleans, Louisiana   
...............+UNKNOWN   m: Abt. 1780
.................4  Monony Chenet SENETTE b: Abt. 1790 in Louisiana      
...........3  Magdelaine Chenet SENETTE b: Abt. 1747 in New Orleans, Louisiana   d: Aug 1787 in New Orleans, Louisiana   
....2  Anne Alexandre Chenet Senet SENETTE   b: 11 Mar 1708/09 in Mobile, Alabama   d: Aft. 1762   
........+Jean Lorrain CARMOUCHE m: Abt. 1728
...........3  Marie Anne CARMOUCHE   b: Abt. 1730 d: 22 Mar 1775 in New Orleans, Louisiana   
...............+Pierre Daspit De ST. AMAND b: Abt. 1728      
.................4  Anne Daspit De ST. AMAND b: Abt. 1752 in New Orleans, Louisiana   d: Feb 1773 in New Orleans, Louisiana   
.................4  Marie Francoise Daspit De ST. AMAND b: 23 Jan 1751/52 in New Orleans, Louisiana d: 04 Dec 1821 in St. Martin Parish, Attakapas Parish, Louisiana   
.....................   +Barthelemy Octave Le Pelletier Dele HOUSSAYE b: Abt. 1750      m: Abt. 1773
.................4  Pierre Daspit De ST. AMAND b: 19 Jan 1755 in New Orleans, Louisiana   d: Abt. 1824 in New Orleans, Louisiana   
.....................   +Marie MAYEUX m: 07 Dec 1778 in St. Louis Church, New Orleans, LA
.................*2nd Wife of Pierre Daspit De ST. AMAND:         
.....................   +Marie Anne LOREN   b: Abt. 1757 in New Orleans, Louisiana      m: Abt. 1793
.................4  Michel Daspit De ST. AMAND b: 29 Sep 1756 in New Orleans, Louisiana      
.................4  Jean Francois Daspit De ST. AMAND b: 08 Jun 1759 in New Orleans, Louisiana      
.....................   +Marie Barbe ZERINGUE b: Abt. 1764 m: 15 Mar 1779 in St. Louis Church, New Orleans, LA
.................4  Alexandre Daspit De ST. AMAND   b: 03 Feb 1761 in New Orleans, Louisiana   d: Abt. 1831 in New Orleans, Louisiana   
.....................   +Anne Marguerite Clement ZERINGUE b: Abt. 1768      m: 22 Nov 1785 in St. Louis Church, New Orleans, LA
.................4  Rosalie Genevieve Daspit De ST. AMAND b: 17 Dec 1762 in New Orleans, Louisiana   d: Bef. 1789   
.....................   +Alphonse PERRETb: Abt. 1753 m: 28 Feb 1778 in St. John The Baptist Parish, Louisiana
...........3  Pierre CARMOUCHE b: Abt. 1732      
...............+Francoise GUIHO b: Abt. 1744 m: Abt. 1764
...........3  Claude CARMOUCHE b: Abt. 1734 in New Orleans, Louisiana    d: Oct 1774 in New Orleans, Louisiana   
...........3  Marie Louise CARMOUCHE b: Abt. 1744 in New Orleans, Louisiana
...............+Joseph Troiville DUBORD b: Abt. 1734 in Cangolin Parish, Canada      m: 11 Jan 1762 in St. Louis Church, New Orleans, LA
.................4  Valentin Joseph DUBORD b: 13 Mar 1767 in New Orleans, Louisiana
.................4  Eulalie Troiville DUBORD b: Abt. 1769      
.....................   +James MORPHY b: Abt. 1767   m: Abt. 1797
.................4  Marie Louise DUBORD   b: Abt. 1771 in New Orleans, Louisiana
.................4  Eugenie DUBORD b: Abt. 1773      
.....................   +Jean Baptiste Toutant BEAUREGARD b: Abt. 1761      m: 23 Apr 1793 in St. Louis Church, New Orleans, LA
.................4  Laurent DUBORD b: Abt. 1775      
.................4  Troiville DUBORD b: Abt. 1777      
...........3  Jean Baptiste CARMOUCHE         
....2  Francois Chenet Senet SENETTE b: Abt. 1720 in New Orleans, Louisiana   d: Jul 1789 in New Orleans, Louisiana   
........+Elisabeth Isabelle HENRY   b: 02 Sep 1722 in Montreal, Quebec, Canada   d: Jun 1783 in New Orleans, Orleans, Louisiana m: Abt. 1746
...........3  Elisabeth Chenet SENETTE b: 20 Jan 1749/50 in New Orleans, Orleans, Louisiana      
...........3  Francois Chenet SENETTE b: Aug 1751 in New Orleans, Louisiana
...........3  Alexandre Chenet SENETTEb: Abt. 1753      
...............+Marguerite PANKERNE   b: Abt. 1755 m: Abt. 1774
.................4  Francois Chenet SENETTE b: 26 Jan 1774 in New Orleans, Louisiana
.................4  Marie Chenet SENETTE b: 24 Oct 1776 in New Orleans, Louisiana
.................4  Genevieve Chenet SENETTE b: 30 Dec 1778 in New Orleans, Louisiana      
.................4  Eulalie Chenet SENETTE b: 30 Jan 1781 in New Orleans, Louisiana
.................4  Jean Baptiste SENETTE b: 20 Jun 1790 in New Orleans, Louisiana
.................4  Ursine Chenet SENETTE b: 20 Jun 1790 in New Orleans, Louisiana
...........3  Marie Louise St. Martin Chenet SENETTE b: 01 Jun 1756 in New Orleans, Louisiana   d: 04 Mar 1839 in New Orleans, Louisiana   
...............+Jean Baptisite ORSO b: Abt. 1754 in Genoa, Loano, Italy d: Bef. 1839   m: 14 Oct 1779 in St. Louis Church, New Orleans, LA
.................4  Thomas ORSO b: 12 Feb 1794 in New Orleans, Louisiana      
...........3  Pierre Chenet SENETTE   b: 04 Aug 1758 in New Orleans, Louisiana
...............+Susanne DE LAVIGNE b: Abt. 1760   m: 30 Jun 1783 in St. Louis Church, New Orleans, LA
.................4  Celeste Chenet SENETTE b: 15 Dec 1787 in New Orleans, Louisiana
.................4  Felicite Chenet SENETTE b: 01 Feb 1790 in New Orleans, Louisiana
....2  Marie Louise Chenet Senet SENETTE b: Abt. 1718 in New Orleans, Louisiana
........+Joseph RILLIEUX b: Abt. 1715 in Rhone-Alpes, Dept. Rhone, Lyon, France      m: Abt. 1740
...........3  Marguerite RILLIEUX b: 02 Jun 1734 in New Orleans, Orleans, Louisiana
...............+Antoine THOMASSIN b: Abt. 1740 m: 10 May 1762 in St. Louis Church, New Orleans, LA
.................4  Marie Marguerite THOMASSIN b: Abt. 1767      
.....................   +Bernard Noel ANDRY   b: Abt. 1765 m: 04 Mar 1783 in St. Louis Church, New Orleans, LA
.................4  Marie Celeste THOMASSIN d: Abt. 1827 in New Orleans, Louisiana   
.....................   +Jean Baptiste Joseph CONROTTE b: 1768 m: Abt. 1790
...........3  Charles RILLIEUX b: Abt. 1745 in New Orleans, Orleans, Louisiana
...........3  Charlotte RILLIEUX b: Abt. 1746 in New Orleans, Orleans, Louisiana
...........3  Vincent RILLIEUX b: Abt. 1751 in Biloxi, Harrison County, Mississippi
...........3  Louis Francois RILLIEUX   b: Bef. 15 Aug 1753 in New Orleans, Orleans, Louisiana      
...........3  Pierre RILLIEUX b: Abt. 1755      
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« Reply #1 on: 06 April 2007, 16:45:47 »

I could not find any Aresta in the region of Bordeaux - and not in France either ("Ville de" means "Town of"). Are you sure of the spelling?
For your info:
Town = Bordeaux; département = Gironde; région = Aquitaine; Country = France
Town = Lyon; département = Rhône; région = Rhône-Alpes; Country = France
Town = Chaffois; département = Doubs; région = Franche-Comté; Country = France
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« Reply #2 on: 06 April 2007, 23:38:08 »

This is the document we get the "place name" of ville de Alresta.

In LOUISIANA HISTORICAL QUARTERLY, Vol. 14, page 141, we find the death and succession of Alexandre Chenet (Jean Baptiste Senet): Novmber 27,1779; Succession of Alexandre Chenet, Alcalde de Verges gives official notice of the death of Alexandre Senet, stating that he leaves minor children. His widow, is Marie Josephe Dauphin. The will found in Andre Almonester's archives is ______. He states in his will that he is named Jean Baptiste Senet, son of Jean Baptiste Senet and Marie Josephe Salmon born in the ville de Alresta in the Kingdom of France, that about twenty years ago he married Marie Josephe Dauphin, by whom he had six children: Rosa, aged 14, Jean Baptiste, aged 12; Victoria, aged 10, Honorata, aged 8; Eugene, aged 6; and Julia, aged 2. Their marriage contract before Chante_, Notary, stipulated what each one should bring to the community. He had a plantation eleven arpents fr___ by _____ _______dec., two leagues from the city on the other side __ ______ river, adjoined on one side by Jean Baptiste _______ and on the other side by Jacques Dauphin, with ____ slaves. He names his wife tutrix and curat ____ and names his six children his sole heirs."
Victoria Senet, or Chenet, was born about 1768. She married Jean Louis Drouet, as we have said and bore him four children. She died December __, ____. Her third child, Edmond Paul Drouet, is our ______ ______.

Thanks!
Jana
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« Reply #3 on: 21 May 2007, 19:50:22 »

janarooke

You and I , and a lot of other folks have the same problem. In your case, after 1768, when the Spanish took over Louisiana, EVERY legal document was written in Spanish. I'll bet your original document reads "villa de Alresta", or whatever sounded best to the scribe.  My ancestor, Francois Baudouin, appears as Francisco Balduino in several Spanish documents in New Orleans.That's just one example.

You will just have to find town or village names, which may not even exist today,  that sound similar to what you have and work them.

 
myers
« Reply #4 on: 26 May 2007, 05:40:56 »

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« Reply #5 on: 26 May 2007, 11:47:37 »


http://gw1.geneanet.org/index.php3?b=rogerpascal&lang=fr;pz=emilie+marie+eugenie;nz=roger;ocz=0;m=N;v=CARMOUCHE;t=A
Wells
« Reply #6 on: 19 September 2007, 14:46:43 »

hello fellow researchers.

Although it has been some years since I've looke at these lines. My recollection is that Anne Chenet whom married Jean Baptiste Carmouche was the daughter of Vincent Alexandre (dit Chenet) and Marie Praux (daughter of Jean Prau and Ann Perotte).

I got this info from NO Genesis and varous books such as Old Mobile and Love's Legacy if I recall. Please email me if I can help further.

John Wells

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« Reply #7 on: 06 October 2007, 15:07:44 »

Bonjour

Je suis descendant de Carmouche France

Ci-joint lien vers ma base GenaNet

http://gw1.geneanet.org/index.php3?b=rogerpascal&lang=fr;pz=emilie+marie+eugenie;nz=roger;ocz=0;p=jean+baptiste;n=carmouche;oc=1

Cordialement

Pascal ROGER

genealogie@roger-net.eu


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« Reply #8 on: 06 October 2007, 15:10:48 »

Bonjour

je suis descendant de Carmouche France

Ci-joint lien

http://gw1.geneanet.org/index.php3?b=rogerpascal&lang=fr;pz=emilie+marie+eugenie;nz=roger;ocz=0;p=jean+baptiste;n=carmouche;oc=1

Cordialement

Pascal ROGER

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